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Everywhere I go people are asking, if the revelations around Alaska Governor Sarah Palin’s selection by John McCain to be his running mate have hurt the Arizona Senator’s chances of winning the Presidency.

The truth, no matter what the polls say today, is that we don’t know yet.

The massive amount of media focus on Palin over the past 48 hours, including her daughter’s out of wedlock pregnancy and the potentially incompetent vetting of her by the McCain campaign, is setting the stage for her speech at the GOP convention here in St. Paul.

It is precisely because no one knows much about the Governor from Alaska, including, apparently the McCain campaign, that the questions surrounding her candidacy are building intense interest in her convention speech which will now be viewed by a television audience in the tens of millions.

With every question, with every controversy, the size of the audience likely to tune in Thursday to watch Governor Palin sink or swim in the treacherous waters of a full blown Presidential campaign grows.

Governor Palin’s speech is likely, one way or another, to provide the most dramatic moment of either convention.

Will she falter or rise to the challenge as the nation watches?

Interestingly, it is unclear when Palin will speak in St. Paul. There are growing signs that Governor Palin and John McCain may speak on the same night, the last night of the convention.

Expectations are so low for Palin, and the opportunity to connect with the growing viewing audience so high – like a hit TV show that lifts the ratings of the show that follows it, will McCain bask in the afterglow of Palin’s success on Thursday night? Or will McCain be on hand to provide the damage control for his own errant judgment?

It is too early to tell. But the mistake is to see the controversies and questions around Sarah Palin as damaging, they may turn out that way and John McCain may pay the price – but for now the interest they are creating in Palin may actually be building the moment and the opportunity John McCain and the GOP need to successfully turn the page.

Democrats should be vigilant against a scenario they may think unlikely – but none the less could easily occur if Palin surprises and is up to the task.

-Joe Trippi,

Originally posted to Joe Trippi on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:28 AM PDT.

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    •  Don't understand (3+ / 0-)
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      jorndorff, kfd313, bahrad

      It's a speech.  She can say anything with no one to rebut her. Don't see how it's going to decide the campaign.

      •  Expectations will be so low, and attention so (1+ / 0-)
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        high that anything will seem like a victory.  We need to plan for the day after the speech.  

        Joe?  Any ideas how we do that?

        •  I disagree. The criticisms are building up (2+ / 0-)
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          skrymir, QuickSilver

          really well and she will be seen as a disappointing choice unless she hits it out of the park.

          And blatant lies like "no, thanks" to earmarks will NOT help her. That stuff will give powerful ammo to Democratic campaign.

          So, while Joe has a point that she will have intensely focused audience, the only guaranteed support for her is the loony fundies.

          Independents and moderates just might find out in one fell swoop what her kooky belief set is.

          McCain - Worse than Bush

          by MAORCA on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:43:40 AM PDT

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      •  No one has said she's incompetent, right? (0+ / 0-)

        I've seen a lot of press coverage. There's a lot of "she's spunky", "she's a fighter"... No one I've talked to in the general public has said they think she isn't able to function as a politician.

        I don't think anyone in the Obama campaign is expecting a disastrous speech. It's hard for that happen (though as McCain showed back in June, not impossible).

        •  and not just Obama campaign, media also (1+ / 0-)
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          Happy Days

          just to add, no one in the media has suggested she can't give a good speech. Besides, the problem with Palin is that she subverts the anti-Obama narrative. If she gives a good speech, and is lauded because of it, that's yet another element of the narrative that goes out the window.

    •  BULLETIN : Sarah Palin's speech will NOT (1+ / 0-)
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      The Termite

      be at Republican convention, it will be on a Hollywood sound stage on a special edition of 'America's Got Talent :  Veepstakes'

      I expect David Hasselhoff to vote her through to the finals, along with Shawn Johnson, Midget Mac from I Love New York season 2, and that adorable 3rd grade hula hoop dance squad from Topeka ( as a team, those 8-year-old quadruplets have more experience handling a hula hoop than Obama has in his lifetime ! )

  •  She's a secessionist... (16+ / 0-)

    ... a book-burner and a power-abuser. She makes Dick Cheney look positively enlightened.

    •  so therefore the base loves her (4+ / 0-)

      I have been so happy with this insane pick, until I heard Chuck Todd a few minutes ago.  Brought back a few minutes of PTED (Post Tramatic Election Disorder)

      He says (paraphrasing)the crazy right love, love love her and they see someone who will do exactly what they want.  They are small, but are absolutely needed by McCain, and they are like a money machine.

      He then said Palin will fall to the back, McCain comes out all "mavericky" and starts to moderate out, keeps the far right because of crazy lady (and my sidenote is McCain is old and sickly and seems to be losing most of his marbles so she has a better than usual chance of stepping in) and starts getting traction from the knee-jerk middle who are so low informed that they have no idea what is happening.

    •  Yes, and she killed the Yeti with her bare (0+ / 0-)

      hands, clubbed baby harp seals to death, and hired Captain Joe Hazelwood to be her personal limousine driver.  

      All of which means nothing until she goes head to head with Biden in an unscripted debate.  Joe Trippi is right.  Beware.  

      Having credibility when making an argument is the straightest path to persuasion.

      by SpamNunn on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:50:02 AM PDT

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    •  I'd like to know what books she wanted banned. (3+ / 0-)
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      Nova Land, ballerina X, orca43

      My guess - Harry Potter.

      One of the interesting initiatives we've taken in Washington, DC, is we've got these vampire-busting devices. - George W Bush, Denver, August 2001

      by pucklady on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:56:05 AM PDT

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  •  I won't be watching her speech. (7+ / 0-)

    The repubs are very good at negative campaigns, but not so good at governing!!!

    by fhamme on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:31:28 AM PDT

    •  i don't have the stomach either (3+ / 0-)
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      slksfca, fhamme, Eddie L

      i know that in the interest of being on top of party rhetoric and media coverage / spin, i should watch the g.o.p. convention. but i just can't do it.

      Irreverence is the champion of liberty and its only sure defense. -Mark Twain

      by homo neurotic on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:34:24 AM PDT

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      •  I've been ashamed of myself... (3+ / 0-)
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        nussbaumski, homo neurotic, fhamme

        ...for feeling the same way. Knowing that others feel the same way has given me the courage to out myself.


        There are, in every age, new errors to be rectified, and new prejudices to be opposed. -Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

        by slksfca on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:51:42 AM PDT

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        •  definitely not proud of myself (1+ / 0-)
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          i'll probably check in for 5 or 10 minute chunks here and there--can't completely shut it out--but i just don't have it in me to track along closely.

          i know they're going to lie, i know they're going to blow dog whistles of varying pitches, i know they're going to nine-eleven up the wazoo.

          in fact, that's all they've got. what real, compelling, worty-of-consideration policy initiatives are going to come to light during their  convention? jack squat. it's going to be a hate-for-all. i'm going to be very, very grateful to/for all those that do have the appetite for it, and the capacity to break it all down.

          Irreverence is the champion of liberty and its only sure defense. -Mark Twain

          by homo neurotic on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:11:06 AM PDT

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  •  High Tech Witch Burning (6+ / 0-)

    That is the line I'm betting on. It will be the greatest example of feigned outrage of all time.

    •  I beg to differ (1+ / 0-)
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      as the media is clearly showing that McCain did not vet this woman, rather then a burning it is an exposing the likes of which we haven't seen since Monicagate.

      by SanJoseLady on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:39:47 AM PDT

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      •  If This Was A Cynical Ploy To Get (1+ / 0-)
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        disaffected Senator Clinton supporters that would be the best play to get them. There was great reason to oppose Senator Clinton and there is great reason to oppose Governor Palin. Still the a certain percentage of the attacks always seem to be fuled by sexism. Governor Palin will try to eky in on that resentment.

    •  She turned me into a newt! nt (1+ / 0-)
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      Virgil RK

      We have to strike now, sir! Annihilate! Kill! Kill! Kill!
      -Gen. Decker,
      Mars Attacks

      by iconoclastic cat on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:40:58 AM PDT

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    •  huh!? (1+ / 0-)
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      The Termite

      It will be the greatest example of feigned outrage of all time.

      ya know -- i have NO IDEA what You are trying to say by this comment!

      as You know -- the witch burnings were done by the very type of people now twisting all the 'logic circuits' to support Palin -- so, it is indeed a weird reference -- even if it made ANY sense

      further -- she comes across as one incredibly incompetent candidate -- lots of talk around here about Quayle -- but, for me -- she most reminds me of a White Trash version of GeorgeWBushCo -- she lusts for power absent ANY interest in policy or even interest in learning about the world about her ...

      •  And To Try To Trash A War Hero... (0+ / 0-)

        during a Presidential Campaign would be nuts too.

        Opponent of Affirmative Action Clarence Thomas played the race card during his confirmation hearings by calling it a "High Tech Lynching"

        Tarditional values champion Sarah Palin will play the gender card by calling the charges against her sexist.

        We always get surprised when the GOP seems to display unmitigated gall. That is Rove's forte.

        •  Huh!? ... Take 2 (0+ / 0-)

          i am certain that You MUST have a point -- do to Your 'revising and extending' your remarks in reply to my comment ... but i still have NO IDEA what You are trying to say ...

          maybe You are making it in other comments -- but i totally fail to understand what point You have here to make!?

          •  Take 3 (1+ / 0-)
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            Joe Trippi posts a diary on the importance of the vice-presidential acceptance speech tomorrow. I posted a comment speculating that the Governor would try to conflate all the charges against her as sexist during the speech. I was somewhat jokingly referencing the key moment in the Clarence Thomas confirmation when Thomas tyed to rebut the media sensation brought about by the charges of Anita Hill as a "High Tech Lynching". I used witch burning as an example because many would say it can't get more sexist than that. People from the McCain campaign have said that there only hope is to get the disaffected Hillary supporters. Trying to key in on the resentment that Senator Clinton's supporters feel would be why Governor Palin would take the approach of playing the gender card.

            Final take and a wrap.

    •  Is there a High Tech Witch around here? /snark (0+ / 0-)

      Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
      I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
      -Spike Milligan

      by polecat on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:01:13 AM PDT

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  •  This is about John McCain's errant judgement. (7+ / 0-)

    she wasn't vetted at all.

    It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this.--- Bertrand Russell

    by triv33 on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:32:27 AM PDT

    •  BINGO (4+ / 0-)
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      cotterperson, The Termite, triv33, MAORCA

      In what is supposed to be a demonstration of how McCain leads we see instead what he is incapable of, making a decision based on information.

      If he made his decision to pic her without a thorough vetting, what would he do to pick supreme court justices?  

      Even worse, didn't SHE, Sarah Palin, think to at the very least ASK her daughter Bristol what pictures might pop up online?  As we speak pictures are flying around the internet of Bristol drinking, did Palin even care what accepting this position would do to the child?

      by SanJoseLady on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:35:26 AM PDT

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  •  Part of the problem with her speech (6+ / 0-)

    is that, given that, especially on foreign policy, we know almost nothing about her, how do we know that she's saying what she believes and knows and not words that the McCain campaign is just feeding her to say?

  •  She's a good speaker, but (4+ / 0-)
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    PeterHug, SanJoseLady, Allogenes, MAORCA

    what she speaks was not true in her Dayton speech.  The Dems should have their factcheckers ready to go to spin and debunk her speech.

    I hope you're available for the networks that night, Mr. Trippi!

  •  Delivering a prepared speech (12+ / 0-)

    is not the appropriate measure of the individual. Did she write the speech? It is more a measure of one ability to read a script. We don't need another actor in the executive!

  •  I would love to be a fly on the wall (2+ / 0-)
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    homo neurotic, slksfca

    to hear what Republicans are really saying about McCain's hasty pick.  They spin a good tale for the media, but they can not be happy about Palin; especially with her vetting being done publically.

  •  You're right (0+ / 0-)

    And the expectation game is one we Democrats rarely win.

    The question is how do we still come out on top if Palin comes across as intelligent and articulate?

    How will we deal with her if she doesn't crash and burn in the debate with Biden?

    Can we do anything in advance to make the bar higher for both events?

  •  I have no doubt (1+ / 0-)
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    That Sarah Palin will be up to the task of giving a speech full of Republican talking points. She's very likeable -- when I hear her speak I think, that seems like a nice lady. But empty platitudes in support of John McCain qualify you for a 4-minute segment as a talking head on AC 360, not to be VP.

    Make no mistake, they will prepare her with talking points and evasions to most questions that will be thrown at her. It will be no easy task - but one that we will have to be equal to - to get her out of the comfort zone they build for her.

    When W was asked, prior to the 2000 election, who the leaders of various foreign countries were, he drew blanks. He grew petulant and dismissive. And he got elected President. We can't let that happen again.

    Sarah Palin is not "up to the task". We can't let the GOP get away with trying to hide that.

  •  so a speech written (6+ / 0-)

    by someone else and read through a teleprompter is going to staunch the flow of questions about Palin? I think not. Sure, she'll probably do well, but one speech alone isn't the answer to the myriad issues she raises about McCain. No way.

    "Americans wish to be settled. Only so far as they are unsettled is there any hope for them" -Emerson.

    by kfd313 on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:36:01 AM PDT

  •  Well the answer (1+ / 0-)
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    to that.  Don't watch.  Don't give McCain or Palin anywhere near the numbers that Obama/Biden got. ** 4150 **

    by BDA in VA on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:36:08 AM PDT

  •  McCains judgement (3+ / 0-)
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    SanJoseLady, housesella, MAORCA

    He had MONTHS to make this decision. And it was a BAD one.
    If he can't make a good one with lots of time, how will he make a good one with a short time frame. Ie, the terrorists are planning a chemical/biological attack in a major city. Does he nuke the city, or send in a SWAT team and try and evacuate it?

    Obama/Biden vs. McCain/AreYouFuckingKiddingMe?

    by sd4david on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:37:36 AM PDT

  •  A good speech still isn't (3+ / 0-)
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    lisa66, Osiris, bflaff

    going to satisfy the media, because she won't talk with any media.  

    The media has a bone and they aren't letting go if it, just today there are numerous stories on her, from her association to the AIP, to McCain's utter lack of vetting....oh, and need we not forget the McCain campaigns lie about having the FBI vet her.

    Sure, she will give a good speech, and the GOP will cheer her, but will that speech undo all the damage that is being done right now?  I think not.

    by SanJoseLady on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:38:08 AM PDT

  •  And Joe, thank you for YOU and for (4+ / 0-)

    Howard Dean.

    The 50 State Strategy, and Obama's rise would not have been as likely without you two!

    Obama/Biden vs. McCain/AreYouFuckingKiddingMe?

    by sd4david on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:38:48 AM PDT

  •  Joe, We're counting on people like you (5+ / 0-)

    to be out there countering the charade with the truth about who this person is, ON TV.

    Corrupt. Corrupt. Corrupt.
    Alaskan Separatist.
    Against Sex Ed/Contraception.
    Doesn't believe global warming is man-made.
    Want the polar bears off endangered species list.
    Book Burner.


  •  Will she get to make her speech? (1+ / 0-)
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    Or will she "withdraw for family reasons?" Intrade has the odds as 12% right now.

  •  let's not let her make it to thursday (1+ / 0-)
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    I want her OFF THE TICKET.  I want to see them scramble for a replacement.

    Yes, ANY replacement would be a better candidate.  But I can't think of anything more disastrous for McCain than being forced to withdraw his own veep candidate in disgrace.

  •  Pretty large assumption here (2+ / 0-)
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    jorndorff, Melissa J

    and that is that people are actually going to tune in to see her speak.

    Obama got 38 million to watch him last Thursday.

    With another hurricane bearing down on us, as well as the start of the NFL, I doubt that Palin's speech moves the needle one way or the other.

    Not that many people are going to pay attention.

    At least not as many that saw Obama speak.

    •  it will be years before that many people (0+ / 0-)

      watch a political speech on TV from anyone else but BHO

      Not that many people are going to pay attention.

      "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

      by IamTheJudge on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:02:03 AM PDT

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  •  Sorry, It's not her speech (1+ / 0-)
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    Anyone can write a decent enough speech for her, and she can easily learn the lines and read them off the prompter. So I don't see how there's any drama in what she'll say. She's not going to go all Buchanan '92. I expect something inoffensive, safe, and banal.

    It's how she handles Q&A and the press inquiries that will make or break her.  She still hasn't been exposed to the sharks yet. And the chum in the water is piling up.

  •  Palin is NO Barack Obama (0+ / 0-)

    She will not be able to resolve her issues with a speech the way Obama would. It will be a huge mistake for the McCain camp to rest it on a speech by her. But I won't be surprised - those folks are reckless gamblers.

    I say, we're looking at potentially a Kathleen Sebelius State-Of-The-Union response moment.

  •  At best (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans can hope Palin's speech is good enough that the topic changes from her to McCain and Obama.

    That's a "win" for them now, that the discourse no longer discusses her.  On friday it was about how "bold" and "mavricky" McCain was by taking the "biggest risk in a generation" on his VP pick.  Now they can just pray it all goes away and she can be packed off to campaign from Cheney's undisclosed location.

    We can't control what the Republicans will do, or whether Palin will come off ok, but I don't see why we shouldn't make hay while the sun shines in this very target rich environment.  Palin is a ridiculous choice, and we are not being unfair in making that clear.

    Sometimes rope-a-dope goes wrong:  If you get beaten up too badly trying to tire your opponent out, you'll have no gas in the tank for your comeback.  We know for a fact McCain is not a dazzling orator.  It's unlikely Palin is either.  

    •  Nothing is going (0+ / 0-)

      to bring this back to Obama, not in the near future, because the McCain campaign isn't even letting the national media interview this woman.  So, the media will instead go on the hunt and it isn't going to be pretty.

      by SanJoseLady on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:45:56 AM PDT

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  •  The tone of Joe's post seems to suggest (3+ / 0-)
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    jorndorff, MAORCA, bahrad

    That a good speech will solve everything for McSame/Paleone.  Certainly the large audience that she will get is a factor.  She may drag the ratings up on his predictably bad speech.  This makes our task of pressing the TM on the need for complete vetting of Palin (oops Paleone) and the obvious total abdication of responsibility that McSame has made in his first decision.  Remember that the blogs were able to keep the pressure on Trent Lott until he folded.  Lets get busy. Write LTE. Ask national publications pointed questions. And most improtantly respect Baracks wish that we keep our hands off the daughter.  This BTW does not detract from Barack's campaign at this point.  He is doing just fine out there on the trail and TM is covering his speechs well.  Let's put the bright light of day on this unexcusable lapse of judgement by McSame

    Maybe it is music that will save the world - Pablo Casals

    by Palmetto Progressive on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:44:09 AM PDT

    •  If we do our job, she'll have nothing left to say (1+ / 0-)
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      Palmetto Progressive

      If the story about being for the bridge to nowhere before being against it (and taking the earmark money anyway) and her record as mayor (raising taxes and seeking federal earmarks) become countering points, then anything she says in terms of reform will be exposed as empty. Then, it'll be back to her personal story and biography, which aren't really enough. The key will be to expose her on issues and on theme... Most people assume McCain will emphasize reform & change in his speech (as opposed to "I will follow Bush") so all Obama needs to do is wrap Palin up in the "more of the same" theme.

      •  Well said! Now - - (0+ / 0-)

        Write a letter to the editor expressing outrage at McSame's complete abdication of responsiblity.  Or maybe call a Rethug congressman or Senator in your home state and ask why McSame is trying to loose the election.

        Maybe it is music that will save the world - Pablo Casals

        by Palmetto Progressive on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:39:51 AM PDT

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  •  Democrats Must Define Her as Bad (2+ / 0-)
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    The Termite, MAORCA

    If Democrats don't define her in this defining moment opportunity you describe, of course her faults won't hurt Republicans.

    That's how our elections work: the competitors work against each other. Just waiting for them to fail will fail.

    Another opportunity blown by Democrats, if that's what we want.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:47:13 AM PDT

  •  She'll give a fine speech (3+ / 0-)
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    Gooserock, Catte Nappe, TriangleNC

    It will be just about like the last one, and she came across likeable enough, kinda spunky if not vapid.  The Republican talking points will be covered, her so-called mavericky ways will be on display, the Repub audience will shower her with cheers, the surrogates will gush, and the media will proclaim that she is wonderful.

    I don't need to watch. That she hasn't been laughed off the stage already as a serious VP nomination tells me all I need to know about how Thursday will go.

  •  Sorry, A speech can't fix this (0+ / 0-)

    There is nothing she can say outside of withdrawal that can save her.

  •  excellent point (2+ / 0-)
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    SpamNunn, brooklynliberal

    America is not like the Daily Kos audience (to say the least) and voters do not necessarily vote on the information we think they should.

    They may decide to turn in to see what the fuss is about and be very impressed with a speech she gives and believe her take on fighting corruption, fighting earmarks, leading the Alaskan National Guard agand being a maverick politician

    Premature gloating that she is toast are not necessarily true and we have to wait.

    However, if I were a gambler, I would put my money on toast.

    We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at our peril, risk and hazard. Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764

    by MMW on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:49:37 AM PDT

  •  There's Some Serious Horsepower Winching Down (0+ / 0-)

    the bar she has to jump over.

    The woman can talk better than any POTUS/VP Republican since Reagan, and better than him in that she knows what most of the words are actually for.

    All the thinktanks need to do is scrub her speech of her idealogy and she is well able to be a big hit.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:49:47 AM PDT

  •  Joe, would McCain drop her? (0+ / 0-)

    I think he's such a stubborn bastard that he'd never, ever ask her to quit ... because it would reflect so negatively on him.

    If she does drop out, I believe it'll be entirely on her own accord, and over McCain's objections.

    The way to win is not to move to the right wing; the way to win is to move to the right policy. -- Nameless Soldier

    by N in Seattle on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:52:54 AM PDT

  •  Super sized buzz kill. (0+ / 0-)

    The public doesn't know much about her?

    Thatz exactly the point, Joe.

    McCain doesn't know much about her, but he picked her to be the leader of the free world. What's that say about his judgement/temperament to be POTUS?

    It's the fascism, stupid!

    by lastman on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:53:22 AM PDT

  •  Two words: Checkers Speech (0+ / 0-)

    And no, the voters are not any smarter now than they were in the '50's.

    She will be a hero to her base by the end of the convention.

    •  her husband's cloth coat won't save her on this (0+ / 0-)

      or even that dog.

      besides, the checkers speech was going into the second term of IKE. Ike wanted to ditch Nixon.

      there is no redemption here.

      more will drip out as the campaign progresses.

      I'm sure that the GOP won't want more of this throughout the campaign.
      take the hit now, pick a guy who will do it for the good of the party, and move on.
      this is a lost cause.

    •  This is much more likely than not (0+ / 0-)

      Certainly much more likely than her dropping off the ticket. Get real folks.

      Springfield 07: What it must have felt like seeing JFK in 1959.

      by Hoosiercrat on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:22:32 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Problem is speech time not known (1+ / 0-)
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    Both Palin's possible speech and McCain's speech suffer from this problem:


    most people have other things going on and might be watching NFL.

    the obama speech everyone knew the time and got ready beforehand.

    This is a serious problem for the Republicans.

    "Four seconds is the longest wait " -Sleater-Kinney

    by delphil on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:55:41 AM PDT

  •  Joe, what's with the grace period she's getting? (0+ / 0-)

    In your experience, is it just our misfortune that Hurricane Gustav AND Labor Day followed her announcement, or was the Obama campaign always going to wait a while before unloading on her?

    I mean... they ARE going to unload on her, aren't they?

    •  Do they need to? (1+ / 0-)
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      Looks like the media is doing a decent job of revealing more and more on her.  I'd bet that every reporter wants to break stories on Palin.

      •  You make a good point. Probably not. (0+ / 0-)

        Not yet, anyway. Could this be just the tip of the iceberg? Usually the media misses the really good stuff... Obama's team might be sitting back right now, letting the media do the work for them. Anything the media misses can be filled in later.

  •  I bet her speech gets better ratings (2+ / 0-)
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    delphil, brooklynliberal

    in the Nielsen's than McCain's.

  •  If our party fails to turn this... (0+ / 0-)

    ...patently catastrophic decision to our favor, we are truly rudderless.

    Her ability to exceed expectations might be in question, but the facts regarding her past and present life and her politics are not in question, and the disqualifiers are many.

    I knew droogie6655321, and you are no droogie6655321!!!

    by The Termite on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:02:22 AM PDT

  •  Will the press ever get to speak to her (0+ / 0-)

    and ask unscripted questions?

    Will the "town hall meetings" be packed with prescreened people, or will anyone be able to attend?

    I think they're going to keep her ISOLATED for the duration.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    -Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:02:44 AM PDT

  •  excellent (0+ / 0-)

    the question is, how much comes out before then and will it irrevocably damage her candidacy.

  •  Well let's hope this isn't a preview (0+ / 0-)

    or maybe we hope that it is. From a speech she gave in June of this year at Wasilla Assembly of God church:

    "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

    Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state.

    "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

    If you watch the video here towards the end they talk about how Alaska is one of the "refuge states for the last days".

    "I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me, what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?" GOP VP Candidate Sarah Palin

    by Vita Brevis on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:12:34 AM PDT

  •  Right On (0+ / 0-)

    We underestimate Palin at our peril. She is just the sort of distraction the GOP noise machine loves, taking legitimate concerns and twisting them into elite bias. In addition, questioning her qualifications (especially by way of her daughter's pregnancy, membership in fringe groups, and her own personal Troopergate) opens the barn door for McCain to resurrect Resko, Wright, Ayers, etc. As Joe notes in his column today at RCP, she could be a twofer -- at once distancing McCain from Bush/Cheney and firing up their base. Pretty clever. Yeah, it could backfire big time, but that won't have the impact it should if the public thinks the Democratics fingerprints are all over it. So I say treat her just like you would Romney on Pawlenty. Make her get crystal clear on her views on Iraq, the economy, etc.

    Springfield 07: What it must have felt like seeing JFK in 1959.

    by Hoosiercrat on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:19:11 AM PDT

  •  What about getting Palin to answer questions? (0+ / 0-)

    One thing about Palin is that she has yet to go on air to answer questions about herself.  Really, what have you seen of her on TV besides the stump speech and some photo ops?

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